householder: hey, you are the people from that religion that hides pedophiles, aren't you?.
'hovah: whaaa?
hh: yeah, i saw "dateline" the other night on how 'hovahs protect sexual deviants.. 'hovah: well, you can't believe....... hh: no, no, i did some research after watching the show, now the wts is synonymous with corruption, deceit, slander, death, suffering, and the like.. 'hovah: well i uh, don't know about, uh, any problems, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh!.
I'm sorry that you are totally blind. I was too until it happened to our family.
Why don't you visit them & ask them questions. They are elders in good standing. They'll have to let you know how our family was stopped from going to the authorities.
The protection of pedophiles by the WTS makes me puke.
first lie: erica.
i dont believe erica lied about her abuse.
obviously it must be true, even mr. beliz confessed that he touched her inappropriately.
By the way Matrix,
I'm sorry that you are totally blind & brainwashed.
Just don't say that you weren't notified when it happens to one of your family members or to a close friend.
If you are so sure of the WTS what are you doing here??
first lie: erica.
i dont believe erica lied about her abuse.
obviously it must be true, even mr. beliz confessed that he touched her inappropriately.
Hey,
Just because no innocent child has been raped and molested in your family DOESN'T mean it hasn't happened to 1,000's of JW's Children.
One of the only reasons I believe Dateline if because this ATROCITY happened in our family in 94.
No elder has come to my home with their "wicked" version as to why Dateline was wrong. They don't have face to come to any of our families homes.
They are probably shaking inside that we will follow in Erica's footsteps. They know they Society will not help them financially to fight us in court. So they are keeping away.
HOw would they like us to Subpoena the 5 elders who DF my stepfather? How would they like us to suppoena my uncle & brother, who are FULLY aware of everything that happened. They are elders in good standing as I type who where in the same congregation when my stepfather got DF but didn't participate in the judicial proceedings because they are family??
Do you want their telephone numbers? Do want my sisters telephone number? Do you want my mother's telphone number who divorced my stepfather for abusig his OWN daughter?
Do you want the local Police Department's telephone number because as I type my stepfather is being investigated for abusing a 13 year old GIRL in his NEW home town.
All of this could've been avoided if the WTS would have let us gone to the authorities?
How can anyone in the WTS sleep at night or claim to have a clean conscience?
Hello?
i thougth the wts only spoke with the truth?
then why did jr brown lie???
does he need the telephone number from 7 elders all in good standing, one my uncle & another my brother?.
I thougth the WTS only spoke with the truth? Aren't we taught that Lies originate from SATAN????
Then why Did JR Brown LIE??? Does he need the telephone number from 7 elders all in good standing, one my uncle & another my brother?
Does he have amnesia? Are family was Told NOT to contact the authorties, not to bring reproach on JW's name or his earthly organization that Jehovah would take care of it within in.
JR BRown haven't you heard that once you say one lie you'll have to continue "lying" so you can may cover up your origianl lie???
Hello?
Don't you think that the 1,000's of victims now know, after hearing your lies, that the WTS lies? Yeah, and like I said above where do lies originate with???__________________
a. Satan
b. The Devil
c. Diablo
d. Satanas
JR. Brown if you need help filing with the above question
you can't get it wrong all a, b, c & d are correct.
i had my sister watch dateline.
she was so shook up that she couldn't even talk.
the same thing happened to her by her father, my stepfather.
I had my sister watch dateline. She was so shook up that she couldn't even talk. The same thing happened to her by her father, my stepfather. Yet, he was only DF by a 5 elder committee.
It's time that we start collecting signatures in each state to make reporting mandatory in all states. We need to change the law. IT's a big job but it needs to start somewhere. I'm sure other organizations would help us.
I watched Dateline with a friend. She told me that she would never open the door again for any JW. & She's outraged that they have "their" own judicial system ignoring Caesar's system here on earth. She said Pedophiles shouln't be going Door to Door endangering other innocent children. I agree with her!
Any ideas anyone on how to get this started?
i had an idea that i could build a uk map of everyones location which would show you instantly who is in your area from jwd.. (it might be an idea to do a seperate us one aswell but i'll wait and see if this one takes off first, or if anyone from the us wants to volunteer to do that one).
(and australia but you are all in the same backyard anyway - literally!!!).
anyway, all you have to do is post or email me your username and town and i will draw you on the map above which will change gradually to include everyone!.
Thanks for your reply. I'm sort of computer challenged when it comes to maps.
here's why children are suffering.... dueteronomy 19:15 says...........no single witness should rise up against a man respecting any error or a sin, in the case of any sin that he may commit.. at the mouth of two witnesses or at the mouth of three witnesses the matter should stand good.
16. in case a witness scheming violence should rise up against a man to bring a charge of revolt against him, 17. the two men that have the dispute must also stand before jehovah, before the priests and the judges, who will be acting in those days.
18 and the judges must search thoroughly, and if the witness is a false charge against his brother.
The two witness thing needs to be changed. We are living in the year 2002 not when the bible was written since I'm thinking that is where they get the 2 witness thing.
per my uncle who is an elder:.
anyone who has a criminal record can't have any privileges from now on per the wts.. my conclusions:.
so what about the child molesters who have abused children who have been disfellowshiped, pardoned, or who have sincerely repented of their wrongdoingsbut the authorities were not notified?.
You're right I don't have it in writing only his comments. Also the KH JW's know about the abuse cases but guess what? They are NOW saying that they where under the confidentiality laws- What about the law that requires them to report child abusers to the authorities like in this state?
My uncle or brother never obeyed Caesars Law & reported that they new that his niece- his sister- was raped by her own father & just DF.
here's why children are suffering.... dueteronomy 19:15 says...........no single witness should rise up against a man respecting any error or a sin, in the case of any sin that he may commit.. at the mouth of two witnesses or at the mouth of three witnesses the matter should stand good.
16. in case a witness scheming violence should rise up against a man to bring a charge of revolt against him, 17. the two men that have the dispute must also stand before jehovah, before the priests and the judges, who will be acting in those days.
18 and the judges must search thoroughly, and if the witness is a false charge against his brother.
I'm literally sick to my stomach from reading about all the abuse victims! I think the toilet is my new best friend.
I ask myself why? She was only 5 years old. Why? Why didn't anyone believe her or help her? why...
i left the jws over 17 years ago.
when i left i thought the org was right but the people were wrong.
she was not warned that he was physically abusive to his children.
I say this because the authorities are now investigating my stepfather, as I type, for abusing a 13 year old girl in the state that he now lives in.
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